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Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

It can be done via triggering, no it isn't too hard, and Amazing. That sort of a cycle is just what was intended. Unfortunately I'm at work and don't have the time to alter and test something specifically for this code. Sometime this evening if you haven't got it figured I'll look into it.

Magician Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 430

Hello,

Going to write about a new trouble I'm facing, meanwhile. Namely agressive mobs in the path between letssay one location (bot room 1) and second location (bot room 2). As much as I can think about it, I guess suspending the walk when encountering an agro mob that has to be dealt with first should be done by triggering the mob's desc perhaps? I mean, lets say the mob is:

Magician Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 430

Not completely sure yet but I might have dealt with it. For now anyway, I guess.
I did the trigger with mobs=%null;fighting=1 and it seems to stop movement now for fighting and when fight is over, it moves on itself.
One thing tho, not sure if its my own problem because I'm testing the thing in a different area now, but sometimes it runs through one room really fast (albeit it shouldn't), leaving the mobs variable full of mobs from that room and then moves to the next room, screwing up the fighting part because in the next room it can't find nor the mobs in the list for attacking or anything, thus leaving fighting at 1 and movement stops. Its pretty bizarre because i didn't had a trouble like that in another area at all. Just figured I'd write about it. Maybe some sort of clitch somewhere that can be fixed.

Thanks.

Prog

Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

For the purpose of a battling bot, which you have. It is best to set fighting to 1 whenever you wish to stop. I would like to point out though that if at any time you wish to stop walking you also have the choice of setting the @walk variable to 0. This will stop the bot in its tracks.

That said setting fighting to 1 was the right thing to do. but it was unnecessary to set mobs=%null. Mobs should have already been null when you walked into the room. Setting it to null when you get attacked could cause you to leave some living mobs behind. You would leave quickly as you put it. You might want to manually Backstab Elephant. I don't know how fighting goes on your mud.

Finally if you experience heavy lag it would appear as if it is going quickly from one room to the next. This would also cause it to suddenly stop a few rooms away from the mobs.

Edit: There are several ways around this but to my mind fails me at the moment. I put something here that may not work so I removed it.

Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

Something came up tonight. I'm not going to explain this code right now. See if you can figure out how it works.

Magician Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 430

Okay.

First off. About the agro mob. I think adding the fighting=1 to the trigger solved it. It does attack all the other mobs now, after it has dealt with the agro one. Anyway, there's one downside to it. If I enter a room with several mobs I need to kill (but who aren't agro) and there's also the agro mob, I need to deal with that first, right. That isn't an issue if the agro mob would the first standing mob in the room. But at times, it looks like this:

Magician Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 430

Ok, going to write more clearly without any pointless babble as I tested around some and can give somewhat more accurate responses about my troubles.
I removed all the walkcircle related stuff you gave me and tried to 'go botroom9' and once it was achived, 'go botroom 21' etc. And it all worked out perfectly well. Then I added walkcircle stuff again and made it with two rooms, 'botroom9' and 'botroom21'. Ideally it should go to first, while killing everything on its way, and then move to last one etc. Well, it didn't. It basically started to loop between two directions before even managing it to 'botroom9'. Nothing like that happend when I tried to move to same rooms with simple 'go'. Thus I'm pretty much clueless what might be happening because as of now, I can't find any reasonable explanation to all this.

About agro mob bit.... forget about it for now. Its working fairly well with fighting=1 addition and while having more than one agro in a room might screw it up and start firing nextroom direction commands, I guess its just some another random thing that needs to be dealt at one point. But just now, in case you check the thread and/or have some time to try and figuring out what I might be having wrong, I really need to figure out whats making walkcircle part not working.

Thanks a lot in advance.

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Magician Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 430

Again me :P (Yes, I know I'm spammy. And that most likely at one point I will be told to PM people instead of spamming public boards :P) Anyway... I haven't stopped playing around with stuff at the moment. So, I started to wonder about one thing and partly its working right now though (using it to re-start the cycle I'm using at the moment). Namely, if I'd write it to Step alias that I'd want to move to botroom9 while being in botroom3 and killing mobs there, how exactly should I do it. I figured myself to do an if with %roomid and mobs=%null and fighting=0 but it doesn't seem to move it anywhere. Let me write it down.

Magician Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 430

Fine, I guess that was sort of like a test if I could crack it myself eventually :P Well, I did. cycled movement is OK now. Added cWalkc alias to Step alias #IF part before nextstep. No idea if it was the correct move to do but now its looping through all the 21 rooms I gave it in roomlist. However, I have been unable to finish the cycle in several occasions because of interference of sorts I have already written before. Namely, as it usually moves without any problem, there are times when the bot takes 2 directions quickly after another (and while doing that, pretty much screws up the automaticy the thing is supposed to have because if there are killable mobs in one of those directions, all the variables will be filled etc and it just stops because fighting is still set to 1). You mentioned the lag and I'm not really arguing with it although I have been having the same problem when I'm running my internet connection in full speed without any speedbumps as well. I'm pretty much clueless as to how fix it tho (Last time you wrote, you said that there are several ways around this...). I tried with #WAIT tho, put it into MorK alias info #IF. #WAIT should fire before Step in case mobs variable is clean. Well, #WAIT didn't make any difference at all. To be honest its the only trouble I have left to deal with. Agro mobs I guess are just a reality I need to face and take a risk.

Thanks.

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Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

Well, I did mention that it takes a lot of time to help you with this right? My life stepped in for a few days, and you did need that test you mentioned. :p

One way Zugg handles the lag is to match room names or exits in the mapper. I don't like the way that works, but Below is a method of handling the Lag similar to Zugg's.

Create a trigger that matches the word Exit.

#trigger {exit} {madeit=1}

Then somewhere in the step alias do a check for @madeit=1. Then if you take a step set madeit to 0.

#if (@fightng=0 and @madeit=1) {set madeit to 0 and take the next step}

I tried to make sure that you KNEW how to use everything I gave you. So that you would eventually be able to alter it to your needs. I said in the beginning that it was more about IDEAS than code. There is usually more than one way to do a thing. Sometimes one way is better than another sometimes not. The way you handled the walkcircle was a different way than I would have. But if it is working for you then GREAT. I never used anything like walkcircle in my other bots, but the IDEA is sound and I'll use it in my next one.

as for the agro bot causing you to miss the others in the room, I can think of two things off the top of my head to handle it. (My brain was sore from work the last time.)

First, create TWO lists of mobs, Mobs and Mobs2. Leave the backstab %pop(Mobs) but if you get attacked by an agro mob set mobs = to mobs2.

Second one, clear mobs when the agro mob attacks you and look. The act of looking will reload your mobs list and since you are in a fight it will not try to attack any of them.

While I was writing the first two I thought of a third way that I'm not gonna list. Point being there are MULTIPLE ways to handle almost every problem.

You will always find things that need changing on your bot as long as you use it. That is how it should be. But these forums are for helping, not for doing for you. At this point I KNOW you have enough information at hand to figure out most problems. And you are gonna have to really work to get me to SHOW you how the code should look from now on.

SubAdmin Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 5187

When requesting we make a complex bot I woud actually suggest posting a large block of the mud text inside code tags.
DO post contiguous blocks with commands shown.
DO include multiple movements.
DO include multiple attacks.
DO include examples of other players.
DO include examples of what is currently failing.
DO explain specific lines in the examples when needed.

DO NOT post tiny snippets.
DO NOT use made up text.
DO NOT expect us to be mind readers.

In general, a bot such as what your asking for is very complex. I more or less haven't read a single thing posted in this entire topic because every time I looked at it you were doing the exact opposite of the above. So here is what I am going to really suggest; start a new topic with all the above things in the post, and also include the full script you currently have.

Magician Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 430

Hello again,

I know I'm supposed to figure it out myself but I'm really stuck with that Exits idea at the moment. I figured it'll come down to using exits line eventually though, but I just don't seem to figure out how to place variables correctly for the thing to work. Tried various ways. First put true variable into MorK alias that hits after mob is dead and and =0 into Step alias and then other way around, now I tried with having exits trigger as a completely other class and disabling and enabling it together with madeit setting and I still couldn't get it to work. I guess I'm doing something completely wrong tho, but I'm getting totally blank in this, unfortunetly. One thing tho, yesterday when I tried with simple madeit variable additions to both said aliases, it ended up spamming a lot of code into the mud and then disconnected me :P So I figured today that maybe having Exits trigger just as a usual trigger causes it. So i put it into the class and tried disabling/enabling it as I said. I do think that it should work somewhat like that, because ideally exits trigger shouldn't be enabled all the time. I just can't seem to figure out how to place everything together so that it'd work.

Now, about the agro mobs issue. One of the troubles I'm currenly facing is this:

Magician Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 430

Okay okay, I know I tend to get all worked up too early :P I thinked I solved the Exits issue now, though. Finally. Put check for madeit=1 to MorK alias into #if sentence with #fighting=0. Put #madeit=1 right there with it. Now, as Exits line sets madeit variable to 1 each time, I put a set to make madeit=0 in Step alias, more exactly in the #if part right before cWalkc alias. I'm still watching how it goes at the moment as I changed all the alarms to lower number as they were before (and back then, when it was lower than 5 for both, it started to take several directions at once), set both to 2 at the moment but haven't seen troubles yet. Thing seems to wait for Exits line before doing anything at all via movement.
Just figured I'll write about it as it seems to be solved issue hopefully :) Troubles with agro mobs still stay, though.

Thanks,

Prog

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:26 pm

Prog,
What I would suggest to you, and what I do in my own combat bot, is to make a small delay from after you enter the room till the time you attack the mob using #alarm. That way, you can set up a check to see if you have been attacked by an aggro mob, and if so, don't attack a mob until the aggro one is dead.

Magician Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 430

Yeah, I had more or less same thought while ago myself, to be honest. The thing is that I'm not completely sure if I know how to set one up so that it'd actually work, given that I'm still in a learning phase of everything more detailed and sophisticated :P Ideally, there could be an alarm that would fire #alarm to sort of disable mobs variable in case agromobs variable doesn't equal %null. But at least for now, I don't know how to make one like that.

Basically something like:

Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

Look back at how I turned on and off an alarm that was there permanently. The MoveOn Alarm. You don't have to have a trigger/alarm/whatever inside of another class to disable it.

So inside your MorK alias you already have some crazy stuff going on. Wink

But for the purpose of adding this delay we can take out the backstab %pop(mobs) and put #T+ Alarm that does if not fighting backstab %pop(mobs). #t- myownAlarmName. You can use the simliar principle for the lag btw...

Magician Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 430

Nods... I understand the concept. Just can't seem to figure out how to write the thing down. Basically I need to make alarm to remove attacking %pop(mobs) option and re-enabling it once the agro mob causing all the trouble, is dead. Among other ways I guess is to make alarm clear mobs variable and look, or something. I'm continuing to wonder about it though, just figured I'd write something here meanwhile :P

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Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

No, not one to remove it. REMOVE it and turn on the alarm that does it... Look I'll help but. The more things you do on your own the more complex the thing becomes. Look back at what Vijilante said. More people would help if you took his suggestion to heart. If you want me to show you what to do from now on you will have to follow his advice. I've been as he put it practically mind reading. If you don't want to paste your code where everyone else can see it PM me. But this thread has REALLY gotten out of hand.