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Adept Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 264 Location: USA

Anyone happen to have any of the 1.x versions laying around collecting dust anywhere?

Haven't been able to find em out there on the net. So far I've found:

2.0, 2.91(10am), 2.91(1pm)
3.6, 3.62-16, 3.62-32
4.13-32, 4.22-32, 4.56-32, 4.62-16, 4.62-32
5.22, 5.22a
5.31, 5.44, 5.48, 5.55, 5.55x
6.15, 6.16, 6.62
7.01, 7.04, 7.05, 7.05a, 7.10, 7.11a and of course 7.12

Went to sleep and missed 7.11 :p

Anyhoo, just looking for "history" sake of it.

If anyone has any of the 1.x's, I'd LOVE to get a copy.
(Any of the others would be cool too :P)

Adept Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 264 Location: USA

Cool, just found an old mirror site, just got:

3.05b-32, 3.61-32
4.01-32, 4.13-32, 4.20-16, 4.20-32
5.0, 5.01, 5.10, 5.12, 5.13, 5.14, 5.15, 5.17, 5.18
6.40, 6.67

:)

Still hunting 1.x versions.

Enchanter Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 698

I think I have a couple 1.x versions on a 20M HD somewhere around here.

v1.13 I think is what I started using back in '95.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:58 pm

Wow, if someone still has a copy of 1.x somewhere, I'd love to get a copy! I also want to put together a historical page for zMUD and I don't even have 1.x around anywhere that I can find.

Also, Private, could you send me some of the links you have collected via email? I don't want to make old versions generally available for more users since they contain a lot of bugs and would cause support headaches, but I'd love to download some of the old versions for a history page also.

Adept Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 264 Location: USA

mr_kent, any chance of you digging it out?

Enchanter Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 698

I've got like fifteen projects all going at once, and I'm not even sure I could hook up the drive to this computer. One of these days, I'll try to get it hooked up and see what I have. Right now, I'm pretty busy with other things.

Adept Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 264 Location: USA

If it's one of the old mfm drives, they dont work well on modern computers, i keep some old 486's around for such things... Anyhoo, hope ya find the time eventually :)

Thanks

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:56 pm

If anyone still cares:

http://www.waybackmachine.org/

1st one they have archived is Feb 12, 1998 but it's version's:
32-bit
Shareware: 4.62 1039k 60,357
Beta test: 5.18 1.5MB 4,678
Beta upgrade: 5.17 to 5.18 278k 684

16-bit
Shareware: 4.62 1042k 11,599
Freeware: 3.62a

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:05 pm

Here's a list of what I have collected over the years, if anyone wants any, I'll put the lot on my server:

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:09 pm

Castaway, you really had me excited for a minute there. I thought you really had a v1.6 version (although I don't think there were any "sub" versions between 1.0 and 2.0).

But the ZMUD16f.zip file is actually the free v3.62 16-bit version (the 16f means 16-bit free).

If anyone is able to find a version 1.0 zMUD somewhere out there, I'm willing to give free reg codes for zMUD/zMapper/zApp/eMobius for it. It is a *very* rare file since it was only distributed to certain members of the Smoke Jaguar clan on the Dark Castle MUD back in 1995.

Wizard Joined: 15 Jan 2002 Posts: 1644 Location: USA

*whap self repeatadly*

I swear I used to have 1 and 2

Wizard Joined: 14 Oct 2000 Posts: 1368

I might have started a crazy hunt for zMUD 1.0 by happening to mention your post in Dark Castle MUD, Zugg Mr. Green

. Seems some still remember your old clan. Maybe you should login there yourself? I got the feeling that some of the clan members still play so it might be possible to contact them.

Edit: Off topic: Castaway is that German translation made by you? If so is there any chance you'll release it?

Enchanter Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 698

Bad news. I pulled out my old WIN3.1 machine and started swapping drives in and out, looking for a directory I used to have named something like "OldZmudVersions." I found three master HDs, the original WIN3.1, WIN95, and finally WIN98. The last (and fourth) one I tried was jumpered as a slave and I tried to hook it up with the 98 master and a high-pitched squeal came out of the speaker - I may have reversed the controller cable, but I was very careful to check for pin1! - It seemed backwards after I immediately turned it off and yanked the power and controller ribbon though. The old slave is definitely toast now.

I never found the folder/directory I know I had. I think when I switched to WIN95, I archived? the old versions and maybe they are still hidden somewhere, but I couldn't find them on the three bootable drives. Sad

I have an ancient tape backup, and about eight tapes of which two have data on them. I don't know which two. The tape backup system was quickly replaced by ZIP drives and for good reason - the tape backup took what seemed like days to backup a 20M HD. If Private or anyone else wants the drive and the tapes - which should have my oldest version of zMUD on it, but no guarantees! - he/she should pm me. I don't have the software that came with the tape drive either so this is at best, a speculative proposition.

Finally as to Zugg's last post, I NEVER played on Dark Castle MUD. I believe I first downloaded zMUD in late 95/early 96 and it was just shy of 800K d/l.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:08 am

Oh, damn.. I'd forgotten it was the 16bit version, sorry! I haven't any older than that, sadly.. It seems odd to me that v1.0 isnt on some internet archive somewheres..

Rorso: Yup, it is, sure, where to? I'm afraid the last status of it was for some 6.6X version, and it wasn't complete then.. Can/should I upload it here somewhere? Actually it's also linked on my zMUD pages.. http://desert-island.dynodns.net/zmud/

Lady C.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:38 am

Some searching later: This appears to be an original v2.0, from 1995 (according to the dates of the files in the archive, and the about box in the app)

http://www.mudolc.org/mud/clients/zmud/zmud20.zip

Lady C.

Wizard Joined: 14 Oct 2000 Posts: 1368

*looks slightly jeallous at Castaway* I can do even better Shocked

This website has versions from 2.0 to 5.55: ***censored*** (sorry I noticed it also contained cracks)

Edit: One of the odd things with this client searching is that I have found lots of cracks for zMUD :(. Guess for reasons these sites might be the few who store this old versions.

Apprentice Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 118 Location: USA

i found 1.0! (kinda) its in italian
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.anvi.it/clessidra/pages/basic/download.asp%3Fadv%3DzMUD&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dzmud%2Bversion%2B1.0%2Bdownload%26start%3D50%26hl%3Den%26hs%3D68D%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:18 pm

Sig thief! *peer Orang* Get yer own! ;-P

Apprentice Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 118 Location: USA

lol heh

Wizard Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 1127 Location: London

Horrible sig anyway, far too large ;)

Guinn, the Sigless

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:07 pm

Yeah, his is :-P
I resized mine to W: 501 H: 114

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:29 pm

I don't think that's zMUD 1.0. I think it's the first Italian translation of zMUD (thus, the 1.0 translation). It would have been impossible to translate the original 1.0 version.

Adept Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 264 Location: USA

It is a language file for 7.05, wonder if anyone from that old mud still has it laying around

Adept Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 264 Location: USA

Logged onto Dark Castle, heh, that aint a friendly place... the few that responded had no clue of "Smoke Jaguar" and their only suggestion was to ask Zugg :P

Adept Joined: 12 Nov 2000 Posts: 268 Location: Canada

I found a copy of Version 2.0 (public release)

Still looking for 1.0