Zugg Software :: View topic - Graphical issues

Newbie Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 5

Ok this is an example of how my BBS main menu (and other graphics) are being displayed through zMUD:

And this is how it should look (using mTel or windows telnet.exe):

My current emulation and wordwrap settings:

All of my other graphics are messed up, and zMUD is bypassing my BBS pauses.

I went through all the settings and couldn't find anything. I changed to the terminal font. What am I missing? Thanks in advance.

Enchanter Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 698

Newbie Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 5

MASTER Joined: 28 Nov 2000 Posts: 4817 Location: USA

Looking at the Mail Menu/Teleconference line, I notice that the /J is near the beginning of the line instead of at the end where you want it. You are obviously sending something (unintentionally) which returns the cursor to the beginning of the line without advancing the line. The remainder of the line then continues, but overwrites whatever was already there. The other lines also appear to start correctly, then have the cursor returned to the beginning and overwrite from that point.

Since I can't see anything common in the points where the cursor is returned to beginning-of-line, it's probably a wrap function, either yours or zMUD's.

Newbie Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 5

Newbie Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 5

Yeah so this is pretty aggrivating. This board isn't using any kind of new ANSI technology or something. The menus are all saved with THEDRAW at 100 lines. No animation or anything like that. Comes up fine for anything else. What's the problem with zMUD?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:53 pm

To see the raw text that the MUD is sending, open your character Offline and then type:

#DEBUG test.txt

in the command line, then select Reconnect from the File menu to connect to the MUD. Once the MUD banner is displayed you can then exit from zMUD. You will now have a "test.txt" file in your zMUD directory that has the raw MUD output. You can replay this file in zMUD using the command:

#READ test.txt raw

You can email me the test.txt file as an email attachment and I'll check to see if there is something wierd being sent by the MUD.

The most common cause of this kind of problem is the MUD server (or BBS) not properly sending CR/LF to terminate each line. Some systems get lazy and only send either a CR or a LF. Some are even worse and send LF/CR instead of CR/LF. zMUD is picky about this and requires that the system you are connecting to MUST follow the Telnet protocol. Other programs might accept non-standard line breaks.

Newbie Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 5

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:00 pm

The only option you might try is in the Connection preferences in zMUD you can change the Carriage control to CR instead of LF. I don't know what your BBS is doing to the linebreaks, but if it is using CR instead of LF, than this option will help.

If the Strict Telnet option is already turned off, then zMUD will already allow LF/CR instead of CR/LF.

You might also look at the BBS to see if it has any options to change it's linebreak. Or contact the people in charge of the BBS and let them know that the BBS is not following the Telnet protocol correctly.