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Yamabushi
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:53 pm   

Speed, speed, speed
 
Ok. Here's my issue. I checked the speed at which everything is running in Zmud, which clocked out to 17.2 using CTRL-Q to check it's speed.

After turning off all my triggers, the lowest I could get is 12.3. Which would seem ok, but heres the issue.

I tested this method on my old computer, and it ran at 5.5. And it's a 700 MHz AMD computer, and my new one is a PIV 2.8 GHz. I would imagine that it would run faster.

The old OS is Windows 2k, the new one is XP.

I did a final test by connecting to a new mud, and testing it, without anything done in the setting files. And it tested to 3.3.

The question is, what happened to the old mud setting file to make it where it doesn't run any faster than 12.3, and how can I fix it and speed up Zmud.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:07 am   
 
anyone have any ideas on this one?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:54 am   
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:37 am   
 
I searched for a few ideas and found a couple "zmud and speed" threads.

http://www.emobius.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=17228&highlight=zmud+speed
http://www.emobius.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=17095&highlight=zmud+speed
http://www.emobius.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=16810&highlight=zmud+speed

That first link had a question about trigger conversion. Lightbulb responded "zMUD only does the conversion once, then keeps the converted pattern in memory". An obvious question that came to mind was when did you perform the CTRL-Q: before or after already using the triggers? I don't know if they are taking up memory space and affecting your speed or if that's even a likely cause. Make sure the comparison is done with equivalent environments, i.e. CPU usage, memory available, open programs, zMUD settings, etc.

Just some ideas like you asked for.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:31 pm   
 
To test any version of zMud, first hit <Esc> at the character selection screen. Settings are loaded into memory when you select a character, whether they are active or not, and may give unjustified results.

http://www.zuggsoft.com/zmud/bench2.htm

Here's another link dealing with v6.66, but it is still valid for the current version.
http://www.emobius.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=13865
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:47 pm   
 
Ok, I'll test things out this way too, and see what it does.

I'll let you guys know.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:09 pm   
 
This is the thing I don't understand though. My 700 Mhz machine with 380MB of ram is running things faster than my 2.8 Ghz with 1G of ram. When my settings file is in use.

What could be in there that's so different, seeing that i copied my settings from the 2.8 machine and brought them into the 700 about a week ago. *boggles*
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:49 pm   
 
I have an athlon 2600 and zmud runs the benchmark at 0.6 seconds without settings, and with the settings I have, 2 seconds (there are a ton of settings =))
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:51 pm   
 
Yeah, that's what was wondering, the PIV 2.8Ghz is hyperthreaded, and has a 800 MHz front side bus. It blows away my duron 700 MHz, but for some reason, there is something funny with my settings file. I don't have that many triggers, mainly they are all direct matches, with highlighting going on. There are a few with wildcards, but I'd say it's less than 15 of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:14 am   
 
I finally got the benchmark without any settings to 0.9, cleared everything out of zmud though to do it. I'll have to rebuild my character file. *blahs*

UPDATE
got all my old aliases and triggers in, and it's jumped to 4.3
Much better than before, but could be better. Any things I can do to speed both up more?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:48 am   
 
4.3 is pretty good :P but here are things to keep in mind if you REALLY care about these things.

Make your trigger patterns as SPECIFIC as possible using as FEW wildcards as possible.

In order from slower to faster with comments (From the top of my head)
--- #TR {a %w hornet worth %d}
--- #TR {^a %w hornet worth %d} //Anchors the start of line so trigger doesn't look mid line etc
--- #TR {^a {red|blue|gold} hornet worth %d coins.$} //matches start and end of line with few wildcards
--- #TR {^a gold hornet worth 50 coins.$} //Verbatim match the fastest possible!

Making it a regex trigger will not change speed as Zmud autoconverts it to regex in memory. (when it first loads or fires not sure which)

my current trigger set with lots of unneeded extras open runs at 28.7 ish and I don't notice any slowness so if your doing 4.3 be happy :P
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