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malathion
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:19 am   

Any way to get through an HTTP proxy?
 
I'm going to a University in Australia and I'm behind a local proxy. I have set ZMud to "Telnet Proxy Server" with the IP/Port of my proxy and my login/password to the proxy, but when I connect I just get this:

Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk
Connected to host mud.kingdom.dk

I'm connecting to mud.kingdom.dk:4000 -- Zmud apparently makes a connection althouhg I cannot see anything on port 4000 in netstat. Then nothing comes through and it retries, and retries and retries.

When I use the other proxy settings, I just can't connect.

If you haven't noticed, I don't know much about how all this works. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks.. Crying or Very sad
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malathion
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:39 pm   
 
Help?
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Darker
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:12 am   
 
HTTP and Telnet are entirely different protocols. A Telnet proxy expects a telnet session. An HTTP Proxy expects an http request (duh).

If you're setting the Telnet proxy fields to point at an http proxy, it probably won't connect - or like you see, it'll connect to the proxy but since it's not really a telnet session, it'll just keep trying to connect.

Proxy 101 info: Proxies are hosts that handle and redirect traffic through a firewall. HTTP Proxies exist so you can use the firewall to block web browser traffic outbound from your network, except through a specific exit (the proxy). Reasons for doing this include monitoring/logging traffic (so admins can report on who's going where), preventing visits to specific web sites (napster, gator, etc - things you wouldn't want people inside your network using), etc.

Check with your admins for specific permission for a telnet proxy.
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malathion
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:52 am   
 
Thanks for that info. I was hoping there was a way to make Zmud work through an HTTP proxy (I've heard of people using bittorrent through them, but it required recompiling the client software) but I will ask them if they can help me out.
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Cbisazza
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:44 am   
 
The reason you cannot see a connection from zMUD using netstat is that zMUD is connecting to the proxy not to the host.

As Darker said, you won't have much luck with connecting to your MUD via an HTTP proxy.

However, just check to see whether anyone has created an HTTP-to-telnet gatewayfor your MUD. They are available for some. All you would need to do is connect to the gateway using HTTP (or HTTPS more commonly) and your connection gets redirected as a telnet to the MUD.

You might want to try connecting to FOK via MudMagic.Com. Dunno whether it will work for you and I don't think you'll manage to get it to link to zMUD, but it might allow you to play - as long as java is enabled.
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