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Wanderer Joined: 13 Jul 2002 Posts: 51 Location: Malaysia

I have this problem and need to fix it..
This is basically for a riddle in a mud.
Now i heard this has been done before and wish to know how it's done :) Heheh damn riddles :P

Here's good thing, riddle is single word so no space etc.
but it may contain numbers

So here's what im trying to get
Who do you wish to ask the question?
{Trigger sets Djab}
Who invented zmud?
{ i hit alias start loop}
loop starts
starts with 1->9
then try's a-z
then tries 1a, 1b etc
then a1 -> a9.
then b all the way to Z.
I know this is possible.. please help me out.

Your confused Mudder
Retro

Cameth
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GURU Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 4379 Location: USA

How do you know how long the answer is? Can it contain spaces? Is it case-sensitive? How do you know if you entred an incorrect answer? How do you know if you enter a correct answer? Are you aware how long it is going to take to just find out one answer (if the answer is 5 characters long, not using spaces and assuming case-insensitive you would need a max of 221,073,919,720,733,357,899,776 tries and no less than 3,656,158,440,062,977 tries)?

Kjata

Wanderer Joined: 13 Jul 2002 Posts: 51 Location: Malaysia

Clearly i wasn't asking my questions correctly.

It may contain any number of letters on it but it has to be less than 10.
It may not contain spaces.
It is case sensitive,
If incorrect answer you get "Wrong Answer"
After 3 tries, i have to type #reconnect then type ask djab *game bug*
If you enter correct answer it say "Answer Excepted"

Plz help me out, im desperate :)

Cameth
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MASTER Joined: 28 Nov 2000 Posts: 4817 Location: USA

It's a waste of time. Since it's case sensitive, using both letters and numbers, there are 61 possibilities for each digit (a-z=26, A-Z=26, 1-9=9). Since it's anywhere from 1 to 9 digits, that's
1 digit = 61 possibilities (20 disconnects)
2 digits = 61*61 (3721) possibilities (1240 disconnects)
3 digits = 61*61*61 possibilities (70K+ disconnects)
etc.

If the riddle is meant to be answered, there will be hints somewhere in the Mud. Trying to do it by guesswork is a waste of time.

Of course, it sounds more like you're trying to crack a password than solve a riddle.

By the way, Zugg invented zMUD.

LightBulb
Senior Member

Wanderer Joined: 13 Jul 2002 Posts: 51 Location: Malaysia

What i mean by case sensitive is
the riddle answer is all in lower-case not upper.

Sure there is clue's but if your dumb like me and clue's suck what can you do?

Btw about cracking password, this cannot be done as player name and log in name are different. My mud anyways.

Cameth
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GURU Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 4379 Location: USA

Anyway, what LightBulb says is correct. Look at my above reply for an example of how many tries it would take for an answer that is 5 characters long. If you add in that you need to reconnect every 3 times (most likely the MUD disconnects you to avoid exactly what you are trying to do), then finding the answer will take a really long time.

As an example, lets consider the 5 character scenario. Like I said, that is at least 3,656,158,440,062,977 tries (if the answer is aaaaa). This means you will need to reconnect 1,218,719,480,020,993 times. Lets assume that entering three answers and finding out that they are wrong takes 3 seconds. Lets also assume that reconnecting and starting the process again takes 5 seconds (I'm being extremly generous about the times here.) Taking this into account, the process would take:
(3,656,158,440,062,977 * 3 = 10,968,463,320,188,931 seconds) + (1,218,719,480,020,993 * 5 = 6,093,597,400,104,965 seconds) = 17,062,060,720,293,896 seconds = 284,367,678,671,565 minutes = 4,739,461,311,193 hours = 197,477,554,633 days = 541,034,396 years

So, unless you plan on helping out the people of 541 million years from now on finding out the anser to the riddle, I think you are going to have to go another route.

Kjata

Adept Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 224 Location: USA

not only would you need alot of reconnects, unless you operate the mud yourself, doing that could be hella annoying if others players see it. doing something like that on the mud i play will get you banned. not sure about where you are though.

Evangelist
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Newbie Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 7 Location: Germany

Hmm "riddle in a mud" ..
if you consider logging in itself a riddle ..

i must admit that it looks like you're searching for a way of using Zmud to figure out telnet passwords by brute force.. (no offense meant)

maybe if you tell us the URL of the MUD some of us could take a look at that riddle and try to solve it in an efficient way

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Eldaron

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 10:01 pm

Hmm, a riddle that has a one word answer, but there may be digits in the word? I don't think I know any words like that...

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