Zugg Software :: View topic - CMUD aliases inside of classes (not accessible via /aliasname ?)

Beginner Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 25

I thought this wasnt the case, but after moving some of my scripts to classes today my aliases require /classname/aliasname to trigger now... Am I missing something simple? I spent a good hour going through the class and alias help files and cant find any mention of that being required....

Thanks!
and sorry for the noobish sounding question

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:18 am

you shouldn't need to use the / at all, just the alias name by itself should call it

Beginner Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 25

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:17 am

you can use #T- to turn off and #T+ to turn on any setting, including aliases and classes

Beginner Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 25

I wasnt looking for alternative on/off switches, I was looking for ways to use logical named aliases w/o blowing away in game commands

"gather" is not an alias... "/gather" is... I dont see why no / should even be triggering anything...

if there is no way to avoid that behavior that ill just have to change alias names, but... it really does not make sense

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:14 pm

Just like in Windows if you type a command it searches various places for a match and if it finds one it runs the command such is the fact that CMUD does the same.

You happen to have chosen a character that is used to reference classes which are the same as directories in Windows/*nix if you do /command in *nix then you are likely to run a command that exists in the root directory and it won't search elsewhere for a match. Also you may have chosen to use that character due to having used tf, I myself many years ago did exactly the same when moving from tf to zMUD until I realised there was no point.

Now on to helping you overcome your problem, don't precede the alias name with a slash but instead name it exactly the same as the in game command. What you then do is build logic into the alias such that it achieves the desired outcome.

For instance with gather.

#alias gather {#if (%1=%null) {#SEND gather} {#if (%1="on") {#T+ gather} {#T- gather}}}

What that will do is if you type gather into the command line in CMUD it will recognise that no parameter was supplied to the gather alias and send gather directly to the mud and hence use the mud gather command. If you do gather on then CMUD will turn the gather class on other wise gather followed by anything else will turn the gather class off.

If gather on the mud requires a parameter to be sent along with it then just alter the logic to achieve what you need.

Feel free to ask for more help if you can't figure out the logic your require.

Beginner Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 25

Taz, I have done this, it just goes against my way of doing things to override in game commands - and from what I remember back in zMUD days this was not the case, never used tf tho?

It would be nice if the /-less alias was an option you could enable/disable --- Really dislike the obfuscation it causes :(

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

You cannot name an alias "/something" because in Cmud, the / means something. If you try to name an alias /newalias, the alias name will be "newalias" within the class "/", in other words, the top level of the package. The same would be true if you tried to use any other Cmud symbol in a variable name. "#something" will work, I believe.

Beginner Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 25

when I started with zMUD aliases were always triggered by /aliasname not just typing "aliasname" in the input box... thats what I was saying... I'd much rather all aliases trigger by /[name] and NEVER by "name"

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:39 am

zMUD has never worked that way, perhaps you are confusing it with another client?

Beginner Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 25

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:55 am

What about prefixing all your aliases with z ?

zcrawl could be an alias.

crawl could be a regular mud command.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:47 am

the trick to not call an alias from inside itself is ~aliasname, the tilde prevents an infinite loop

reguardless of how you thought it worked, hopefully it has been made clear now.

and don't be so quick to give up on CMUD, there are plenty of folks on this forum who are willing to help

Beginner Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 25

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

Aliases have always allowed you to override user input, even back to the early days of Zmud. The docs are saying that #ONINPUT is _one_ way to do it, but I don't see any place that implies that this is the _only_ way to do it. #ONINPUT is best used when you want to match a pattern--if you want to match a specific string, then #alias is much more efficient. And the behavior we have been describing has not changed since Zmud. Even under Zmud you could not have created aliases that started with /.

Beginner Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 25

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

Ah, my apologies. That was not clear to me, which made some of what you were saying rather confusing. My fault--now I understand.

Beginner Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 25