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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:23 pm

This is a new version of package library poll. It's intended to get a sense of how many people use the CMUD Package Library. There will be another poll to see what types of packages are used.

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:09 pm

I chose regularly if only because I have published packages for a few different MUDs.

Sorcerer Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 706 Location: USA

I am like shalimar, use it regularly because I've created a few packages. I also have downloaded other packages.

GURU Joined: 23 Dec 2000 Posts: 4834 Location: USA

I downloaded perhaps half a dozen packages, took a look at them, and promptly decided I needed something different or could do it better. I then published one or two that didn't try to just mimic what everyone else was doing.

Apprentice Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 170

Used it once ever, clicked don't use it, since I'm not sure once is enough to even be quantified as rarely.

Sorcerer Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 706 Location: USA

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:41 am

A lot of the scripts may not be legal and they are trying to avoid repercussions.
Or the playerbase of a given MUD doesn't have many CMUD users, much less ones that whip up their own package.
On the otherhand, packages are still a fairly new concept to the zuggsoft community, the library has slowly grown, and will continue to due so.
Maybe we are just to set on that one MUD we have grown comfortable with to branch out to new MUDs and convert folks with some basic interfacing packages.

Wizard Joined: 14 Oct 2000 Posts: 1368

Sorcerer Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 706 Location: USA

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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:35 pm

This thread is not for discussion of open source. It is going off-track so please take your discussions to private or I'll be forced to lock this thread.

Wizard Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 1201

I would use the package library if I could password protect what I upload. I distribute via email though because I don't want the entire playerbase of the Mud stealing it. There ARE valid reasons for NOT publishing systems/scripts, such as people who look for scripts just to find ways to exploit them with illusions and so on. I also don't really care to help the opposition in the Muds I am playing. Anyway, I have quite a few people I provide packages to regularly and it would make life easier if I could just upload it and tell them it is available. I'm not going to do it though because of the reasons stated.

Novice Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 45

Wizard Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 1201

No it isn't. I never said I wanted anything. I just said it would be easier. I just use email anyway. Besides what difference does it make really? Because I would still be making a package available to Cmud users, but not ALL Cmud users so that would be bad? You don't make any sense. Just like anything else there is always some jerk that's going to abuse it, hack it, exploit it, pass it around so I am not doing it. If I create a package I want to share with ALL Cmud users, sure I will upload it to the library.

Apprentice Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 114

Umm where is this package Library? I can't seem to find it under searching your site or anything.

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:35 pm

The package library is in CMUD itself. It's the icon just to the right of the 'Settings' on the main button bar. You can also go to View -> Library on the CMUD menu.

Newbie Joined: 09 Dec 2010 Posts: 5 Location: US

I'd like to suggest a slight tweak to the package library with the next update.
It would be nice if we could upload a single package at a time (a single class would be even nicer yet, but i won't get my hopes up) rather than a full session file.

GURU Joined: 23 Dec 2000 Posts: 4834 Location: USA

You can already upload packages one at a time. Open up the Package Properties, fill out/update the giant text area with anything you want Library users to see when browsing, and then click the Add to Library button. Packages are simply the files that contain your scripts.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure if you can do anything but upload packages one at a time...

If you meant specific modules or windows, you can still do that too--just move it to a new package and upload that.

Newbie Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 9

I must say I never bothered clicking Library to see what it is. Now that I do know what it is, I may start uploading packages to it. Pretty nifty system there. Glad this thread was started Smile

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:02 pm

Chiming in a little late here, but...

1. I find it easier to make an XML dump and installation instructions than than to use the package library.
2. I can't simply UPDATE my code in the package library (that I've found).
3. Bacon. Aw, yeah. I like me some bacon.
4. 'Installing' a package still seems to require searching for the file to add it to a session.
5. I can't test a package installation because once I upload my package to the library it will only show up as 'uninstall' for me, even if I'm using a new session.

Wanderer Joined: 23 Apr 2010 Posts: 53

Like Martaigne, I find it easier to export my scripts to XML and post them on my MUD's wiki.

I am not a coder by nature, so my scripts tend to be a bit chaotic, messy and poorly organized. I don't really use packages. My scripts are organized in class folders. What can I say? I'm a code slob.

Apprentice Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 141

Eternal darknesss pkg. .. ?

Newbie Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 4 Location: St Louis

I feel silly for having to ask this, but where do i download these packages? They sound very useful...