Zugg Software :: View topic - [3.16b] In all links the "&" sign gets turned into "&" when displaying

Apprentice Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 105

In all links, the "&" sign gets turned into "&" when displaying it (not when sending the text), even if the original address you typed in was definitely as a proper &. This means Youtube links look garbled at the end when you specify it as 480p "high quality" (&fmt=18) / 720p dvd quality (&fmt=22) / 1080p high definition (&fmt=37):

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:25 pm

I think the MUD itself is doing this. Check with the MUD admins and ask about this. They are probably encoding the & character with clients that have MXP supported.

You could help track this down using the Script Debugger window. Open the Script Debugger from the Editor menu and then make sure the Raw Input/Output message is turned on. Then do whatever on the MUD to cause the link to be received. Then post the raw output from the debugger window into this forum within [code] tags. This will allow me to see exactly what the MUD is sending to the client.

I did a quick test in CMUD here and did:

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:18 pm

Also even with it encoded as & the URL still works fine anyway. So it doesn't really matter if it's the mud doing it (I doubt it since the others didn't see it rendered on their screen that way) or CMUD doing it (potentially since it does have the clickable links package) or a combination of the two since end users will still be able to click the link and get the correct page.

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:43 pm

True, but I'd still like to track down the cause of this. If the MUD is sending an & entity that CMUD isn't decoding, then that's actually a bug in CMUD. But I can't tell until I see the raw MUD output.

Apprentice Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 105

hmm, you spent over 2 hours waiting for me when you couldve just looked, are you really that averse to connecting to discworld lol :) I remember having this problem over the MCCP/MXP/whatever thing ;)

both those code links do the same thing for me, the link cuts out about halfway. I tried changing the links to http://google.com and they do the same thing, but the bit where it cuts out moves with the text so it's always about halfway.

I couldn't find the script debugger in the editor but I found it, it's in Tools in the top menu
"make sure the Raw Input/Output message is turned on", hoping I got this right it's the one under Messages, i) show raw session input/output right? It was unticked by default but I enabled it:

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:15 pm

Well I've logged onto Discworld and got myself a talker and used the One channel and posted that URL. I turned the talker to brief mode and also used a command that was suggested -> 'chenc' I did a test on all three settings and the & was always & never &

My OS is Windows 7 Ultimate x64 recent install onto new laptop. CMUD is 3.16b and is the only version that has been on here. I created a new session for Discworld and connected, it detected I was using CMUD, it set up a bunch of MXP stuff including a status bar. No preferences changed at all.

My thoughts at the moment are I have a memory of someone having issues with URLs since one of the betas and they deleted the url package and I think it recreated itself and that sorted them, if my memory serves correct then that may well be worth a bash.

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:24 pm

Apprentice Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 105

i'll reinstall the whole thing to make sure tomorrow, it's possible it got corrupted somehow I guess but I definitely haven't changed anything since installing it (because I wanted to try work out the problems I had on my last pc this time so I know it wasnt any scripts)

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 4:49 pm

You also might check in your MXP Preferences to see what the "Force Remote MXP" option is set to. If the MUD is properly negotiating MXP, then this option should be enabled. But if this option is disabled, then CMUD is not going to convert any MXP entities (like &).

For example, in a session with Clickable URLs enabled, if the "Force Remote MXP" option is OFF and you do:

Apprentice Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 105

today when I logged in again (i havent reinstalled cmud yet its unchanged) I did that command and the exact same ones I did before and it's not doing it anymore, v weird

you are right, force remote mxp was off somehow, don't remember changing that it's quite a well hidden option - but it seemed to have fixed itself before i turned that on

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 4:38 pm

Force Remote MXP is only needed if the MUD itself doesn't have MXP negotiation. So maybe Discworld added the proper MXP negotiation so that you don't need the Force Remote option anymore?