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Beginner Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 12

Greetings All

I am posting here hoping to get a bit of help with creating some stuff for playing on Aardwolf. I (very) recently started playing MUD's, I tinkered around with them many years ago, but either didn't find the right MUD or was too busy with something else to commit enough time to them, however, after many years of playing MMO's, I have found myself burned out on that and wanting to get back to the roots of what got me interested in gaming, I remember one of my first and favorite games was Wizardry for the Apple 2e.

Anyhow, I looked around for some info for a few days before really getting started and found many MUD's and many clients, none of which I was certain about, then I found Aardwolf and I really like the playerbase and what I have seen in game is exactly the type of thing I think will be great to get me started. (note: I'm sure other MUD's are just as great, this is not to disqualify any others). I started playing with zMud and CMud initially, I found also that Aardwolf offered a customized client so I checked it out and loved the custom plugins.

I know many of you will think (maybe) that I haven't enough reason to need CMud, but I figure if I am gonna get started on something new I may as well use what the experts claim to be important, this means Mapping, and other things that are supported with Zugg's software that are not available in other tools, also I like that fact that it's actively being developed and there is a community here that can be reached.

I purchased CMudPro 2.36 and was hoping to find the packages already built, but they are not available in the library, there is one map package but it appears to be out-dated or perhaps just a bit buggy, it did create a new child window and moved the map function into it, but it often left remnants in the main window and did not fully create the maps properly in the new window.

I mentioned I loved the way that Aardwolf has customized a client for use with their servers, and I was hoping to mimic some of this behavior within CMudPro 2.36, I have found a screenshot in my lengthy search thru these forums in hope to find the info I needed to create this myself but alas, all I could find was this wonderful screenshot of a beautiful client (CMudPro 2.30, shameless plug here) looking near exactly as I wanted.

So, here is the link to the screenshot

http://www.zuggsoft.com/images/aardwolf.jpg

the most importants aspects I should point out are:

1) the HP/MP/XP stats located on the lower left of main window.
2) the chat channels are in there own window
3) the ingame maps are shown in their own window

Not shown here, but was available with Aardwolf's custom client was a status window, it showed detailed info about your char and some info about your target, if you had one. I would eventually like to mimic this too, but would be thrilled just to have the first 3 items I mentioned working.

I know there is more to MUD gaming than just a pretty layout, but this is the first step for me and makes the experience much easier for me to see whats happening in the game.

If anyone cares to help this Newb get started on creating this functionality it would be greatly appreciated

Thanks,
Royel

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:19 am

I actually asked Royel to post here so that I could paste some of my Aardwolf script for him.

Royel: The way you use this information is to copy each script shown below and then open the Package Editor in CMUD (press Ctrl-G) and right-click on the name of the Window in the tree view on the left (should be the top item in the tree) and select the Paste option.

1) OK, let's start with the gauges for HP/MP/etc. First there is a trigger that captures the data from the MUD prompt. Make sure your MUD prompt shows the data in the form:

100/100hp 100/100mn 100/100mv 100tnl

Beginner Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 12

Thanks a ton Zugg, I really appreciate all the time you have given me today.

"I actually asked Royel to post here so that I could paste some of my Aardwolf script for him. "

I felt like the community and myself would benefit a bit more with some background info about myself since the post is open to all to see.. So.. it was a bit of a introduction to me and my problems, again, thanks for your help.

Stay tuned, I may have questions to follow.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:12 am

Actually, for channels, it's now much easier... this is my script for channels:

#TRIGGER {(~{chan ch=(%w)~})(*)} {#SWITCH (%2) ("Answer" OR "Question") {#CAP answer} {#CAP %2};#PSUB {} %x1} -- each one will go to their individual window. :P

Charneus

You do have to have tags channels on, though.

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

Also, you can check out http://davos.aardcharn.com These are my scripts. They are quite a bit more complex but are really nice and do alot of things for you. You can note me on personal ingame my char name is Davos... Or you can ask Charneus for help regarding them if you decide to use them, he should be able to answer any questions you have about them if he is around. If not your welcome to email me at my email address located in my finger on aardwolf.

Hope this helps. Also, I will probably be putting out a channel capture script very soon that will do what Zugg and Charneus posted scripts to do but I will make it totally configurable.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:44 am

Shameless plug here...

Sooo Toxic, there's wonderful are also in the package library..... right?!? Very Happy

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

Not sure I understand what your saying... But if its asking whether I put them on the package library or not, the answer is no.

The instructions for adding a package to your current session are far too complex for the average user which is still the main problem. Its not simply a matter of download, file/open click and it works.

What I would like to see is either the ability to modify the global/local/external switch via script as well as the package list, or more intuitive package adding when related to those settings.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:28 pm

I'll see if I can add something to make it a bit easier to add a package to your current session. But here are the current steps:

1) Select the Edit Session action
2) Go to the Package Files tab
3) Click the Edit button (the pencil) to open the package library
4) Expand the name of the MUD (Aardwolf) and find the package you want
5) Click the Install link next to the package name
6) Drag the package into the Package List on the left (which shows the packages loaded for your session)

There are no plans to let you change the global/local/external option from a script. That would require all sorts of changes. This setting controls the scope of the module and is part of your package/module design and not something that should be changed back and forth. If you think you have a reason to change this in a script, create a new topic which describes what you are trying to do.

Also, if there is a bug in the above procedure for loading a package from the library, please create a new topic to talk about it so that we don't get this thread side-tracked.

Back to the topic: The reason I didn't add my own stuff to the package library is because it's a mess and not easily customizeable, nor is any of the code commented. I haven't had the time needed to make my stuff into a general package that would be easy for others to use.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:15 pm

I was talking about having them in the package library. It was a late night post, and clearly I should have been in bed instead.

What is complex about being able to install the packages? What's required beyond the download, file/open click?

I may be a bit myopic, but I'm not sure why you'd want to programmatically change the scope of a module within the package. If you're talking about programmatically determining and specifying the packages enabled for a given window, then this can be done using the %packages function introduced in version 2.32.

Start another topic so we can drive that out in some more details.

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

So could I do something like

$templist = %packages()
#ADDITEM $templist NewPackage
#CALL %packages(%replace($templist,"|",","))

Or so... to add a new package to the current active window?

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:21 pm

Well here's the documentation for the command.

Beginner Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 12

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

Actually the code provided by Charneus will handle ALL of your channels with just that little bit of code... But to use it you need to turn on some tags Ingame...

This is what his code would look like in xml format

Beginner Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 12

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:21 pm

It works that way, yes. If you want to remove it from the main channel (note, it WILL remove all channels from the main screen), just add a #gagspace at the first line.

Charneus

Beginner Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 12

Charneus,

I got this working now, but I am still getting 2 windows for the answer and question channel, since Davos explained it should be capturing to one window, have I messed something up.

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:14 am

Not sure why it's not working. It works on my end flawlessly.

Did you delete the other settings (such as the one Zugg gave you) for your channels? Either delete it or just disable it, and answer/question should go to just one window. Also , make sure that you delete the question window. That may confuse you into thinking that stuff is going to that window.

Charneus

Beginner Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 12

Yes, I deleted all the stuff Zugg gave me, I deleted all the windows and started over fresh..

I eventually gave up and reinstalled CMud, first deleting all my user files. Still it creates 2 windows and labeled appropriately, one question, the other answer.

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:46 am

Royel, you were right - it was making two windows. Therefore, I modified it a little. Truthfully, it should have worked the way I had set it up per the help files, but this is the way to get it to work now:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>
<cmud>
<trigger priority="17820" copy="yes">
<pattern>(~{chan ch=(%w)~})(*)</pattern>
<value>#GAGSPACE;#SWITCH (%2="answer" OR %2="question") {#CAP answer} {#CAP %2}</value>
</trigger>
</cmud>

Sorry about that... :\ Hope this helps!

Charneus

Beginner Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 12

Well, this has actually been fun for me I'm learning a good bit and now that we've got this first issue taken care of, my stats update on the buttons correctly (though I'd like to somehow make them refresh a bit more often at times).

Got the chat stuff working and I have a good idea how I can actually modify this stuff now, thanks again Charneus.

Now for the last 2 issues, if anyone cares to help with those.

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:15 am

Here is my automap script. It's basically the same as Zugg's, only it takes care of that <MAPEND> bit, too.

Beginner Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 12

How would I go about setting up this?

I want a trigger based on this text, but I want to save the part in brackets as a string to re-use elsewhere.

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:37 am

#TRIGGER {You stop wielding (*) in your off-hand.} {#var offhandweapon %1}

The parameter would be %1, so whatever you wanted to do with that captured item, you need to denote it as %1.

Charneus

Beginner Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 12

Thanks Charneus for the help

I wanted to show you my sloppy work so you could critique it for me, I know there was a much simpler method to do this very thing, I actually started with just sending the commands, but I also wanted to try and learn something, which I did. I wanted to make the script work with any weapon I might be using for future use.

This is the code at this point:

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:33 am