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Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

CMUD seems to not allow 102 telnet negotiations when I connect to my MUD. Is this a setting I can fix to allow them?

Wizard Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269

Do you mean VT102?

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

No... I figured it out... My next question is... Im using a telnet trigger to match...

SubAdmin Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 5182

It is matching the it properly. There just is no symbol to display the break control character. If you want it to only match that code you use a regex and either octal or hex notation, \003 and \x03 respectively.

I guess the reall question is what do you want to do with it?

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

I need something that will match the d to %1 and the 3 to %2 using the above telopt. I just can't figure it out.

SubAdmin Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 5182

Ok, so once again what do you want to do with it once you have it captured? How about posting what you have so far as well to save me the time of creating it from scratch.

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

No offense, but I don't really see what it matters what I want to do with the info if I can't even capture the correct info heh. Hell I dont even know for sure what I'm gonna do with it... doesnt really matter much if I can't isolate the d and the 3. The d is easy to isolate obviously... (%w) does the trick. But the control code parsing is a pita. So hopefully you can help me build a pattern or a script to isolate the 3, or help me match the <3> for testing in an #IF statement.

SubAdmin Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 5182

I very rarely take offense. I have never taken offense at any persons inability to understand my way of thinking. I do tend to take offense at stupidity; which I define as a refusal to learn. Stupidity is completely different from ignorance, at least to my way of thinking.

Knowing what you want to do with the information helps to make it available to you in a usable fashion.
I already told you how to detect it separately in a previous post.
You don't care to answer my questions, or acknowledge my request in furtherance of aiding you.
You don't want to help me to help you, well the contrapositive becomes logically true. I should leave it at that and just ignore your posts for a while, but I am not that kind of a person.

I will present my thinking in a simple geographic analogy. You want a course plotted from point A to point B. First you must know where point A is, that is my request for your current triggers. Geographically speaking if you don't know where you are then you lost. Second is where to go, point B. Without a proper destination, all the maps in world can't help you figure a course. Simply my thinking is where am I, where do I want to be, then how do I get there.

Wizard Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269

Can't you just put in (.?)<(.?)> (regex) or something similar in for the pattern to get them separated into %1 and %2?

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

No seb.. doesnt work. I've tried everything I know to do.

Viji... Want I want to do is simple.

#IF (%1 = "d") {#IF (%2 = 3) {Do Something}}

All that telopt does is tell the client that the player is free and available. (For a variety of tasks). %2 could be anything from 1 to 13. For now, I only need to worry about it if its 3. But I want to add the ability to later test %2 for other values.

I dunno what else I can tall you about what I want to do. I've done all the research and testing I know how to do to find a pattern to do what I need... Just don't know how to do it. Your help building the pattern would be appreciated since its obvious to me now, that you know how. And Im sorry Im a regex newbie... saying oh you just need to make it regex and use octal \003 means as bout as much as saying nothing does to me.

SubAdmin Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 5182

As a wise man once said, "With great power comes great responsibility." Since all of humanity recognizes that knowledge=power, and it would seem that I create knowledge. It logically follows (about 7 steps later) that your use of this knowledge is your repsonsibility.

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

Wizard Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269

Explain to me why that would work, Vij? Surely %1 would equal "<"?! Or are the <> not interpreted literally by the trigger parser and simply signify that what is inside is an ASCII character with this number? Confused

Wizard Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269

Toxic, the trigger fired, even if the #IF failed, so can you try #PRINTing %1? Or setting a variable with it? So we can see what it matched... (if it's a printable character) You can also try printing %ascii(%1) and seeing what that is.

SubAdmin Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 5182

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

I know the pattern works... I've already stated that that pattern works... Your pattern is simple. But its not firing the #IF statement. If it was, it would show it in the debug... REGARDLESS of whether #SHOW is good to use in a telnet trigger it would show it trying to fire. So simply put... %ascii(%1) does NOT equal 3.

If you use this pattern and then just put #SHOW YES in the trigger. The #SHOW fires correctly. So the issue isnt the #SHOW. Its the %ascii(%1) matching to 3.

SubAdmin Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 5182

I added a #PRINT to the trigger for debugging and tested it by simulating the telnet negotiations.

Wizard Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269

Hello? Anyone can hear me? Confused

Vij doesn't reply to my message and Toxic doesn't do what I suggest. I suggested a method of seeing what %1 was. I'll be more explicit:

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

Thats because you havn't been paying attention Seb. First of all I've already done that and posted the results. Second of all, its a non printable control code. All you get is a box. I've gotten it to work anyways.

Wizard Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269

I was paying attention: you did not post the results of my test! Please check above if you don't believe me!

How did you get it to work?

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

Viji's trigger worked. And I'm not here to run your tests for you. You run them heh. I had already stated what %1 equaled. There was no sense it trying to figure it out again.

Wizard Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269

Adept Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 299

Wizard Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269

Well, (a) that was a different trigger, and (b) I did suggest printing %ascii(%1), which you never stated that you had tried. If you had tried it, I had no way of knowing...