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Novice Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

is there an option for this?

Wizard Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 1127 Location: London

As in allowing the character '*' rather than the pattern match *?
Sure, use ~*

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:11 am

If you mean allowing wildcards, then no. You need to use a regex instead.

Novice Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

shake, I have a trigger

Novice Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:34 am

Nope, but changing that particular pattern will be easy - just change * to .* and {} to () and it should work fine. You could even just paste your pattern into a trigger and click the "Convert to Regex" button.

I'm sure someone's going to mention how slow that'll be, so I'll pre-empt them - using lots of .*s (and *s in zScript patterns, for that matter) like that will be very slow to match and to fail to match. If you care about that, take the time to read through some regex guides and use some of the more specific wildcards to speed up the match. You could also use more-specific zScript wildcards and then use Convert to Regex if you want.

Also, if you're not going to be using #sub, you don't need a * at the end of the line. I'll assume that you are using #sub, but if you're not, you can get rid of them and remove the end-of-line anchor.

I do wonder why the option from zMUD hasn't been carried over, though. I never had any problems with it, so perhaps it's just an oversight.

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:36 pm

have you considered a multiple annonymous stringlist trigger?

#TR{{you stabe at|you try to crush|you attempt to hit|ect} * {with|deep into|ect}}

Adept Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 250 Location: Austin, TX

If BSMessages is exactly as you say, there may not be a reason to use any wildcards at all - you're not saving the results of the match anyway. If you don't HAVE to check past the first * to tell whether you want to match the string, then don't bother.

Thus, you could just use a pattern like

Novice Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

This is what i did last night
Its not what i wanted to do because now i #gag and #say, vs just subbing it.
But it works
Thanks for all the help

Wizard Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 1201

If you want to sub it just do like JQ did above.

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:48 am

Er... except [^.] is pretty pointless since it's not going to match anything :S

SubAdmin Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 5182

Inside of a class the period is treated at a normal character. The rules for regex classes are somewhat convoluted, the only character that maintains the exact same meaning, as outside the class construct, is the backslash. [^.]* will properly match all characters that are not a period.

Wizard Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 1201

Right, the negated character class will match everything from from the atomic group to the end of the line period that isn't a "period". The difference is negated character class doesn't backtrack at all and is faster. Sure you can use ".*" just as well, but even that still backtracks once. I just prefer using the negated character class in certain instances.

http://www.regular-expressions.info/repeat.html

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:25 am

Ohhh, yeah. I'd forgotten that - I was remembering how \w and whatnot remained the same.