Zugg Software :: View topic - Detecting combat before moving in trigger or detecting non-movement

Beginner Joined: 15 Apr 2013 Posts: 24

Hi everyone,

I'm fighting with an edge case that's driving me a little batty.

[MUD OUTPUT]
Mycharacter is not fighting (42/42h 92m |neutral||2,659|S-)
Thieves East Cage
Exits: west
The head of the kobold lies here, a vacant stare of shock on its face.
The corpse of the kobold is buzzing with flies. (2)
A large pool of spilled blood lies here.

Mycharacter is not fighting (42/42h 92m |neutral||2,659|S-)west

The kobold grazes you.
You dodge the kobold's attack.

Mycharacter is fighting (2,659 41/42h 92/92m|S|The kobold is perfect health )Slow walking paused
No way! You are still fighting!
[END MUD OUTPUT]

This is an example of issuing a move command through slow walking and between the command being issued and actually moving I get attacked by an aggressive mobile that triggers a combat. You can see the slow walk combat pause detection worked just fine.

I considered triggering off of "No way! ... " to reissue the last direction used, however this also appears for many other commands, not just movement (for example if I type kill kobold above while fighting, it will trigger such a response) so it would result in a lot of false positives I think.

It is rare that this happens, but often enough to drive me batty.

I do not have a map defined, I am using the #SLOW command directly in my triggers so I cannot return to a known good point. I also don't want to have to trigger every room, I'm trying to be as generic as possible.

Any suggestions on how to detect a failed move? (NOTE: I was thinking of recording the room name and trying to detect a name change, but that's not always going to work, eg hallways or of somehow trying to use MXP ...)

I am playing on the Realms of Despair using CMud 3.34 if it makes any difference at all.

Alternately a solution that recognizes no movement in a time interval and reissues the last move would be good too.

Beginner Joined: 15 Apr 2013 Posts: 24

Alternately, is there a way to keep using the speed walker but have it execute a command before the move?

In this way I could set up a trigger that sets a timer and looks for an Exits: line within nn seconds or repeats that last movement?

Ie can #SLOW nnnww become #SLOW iiijj where i is an alias for #t+ ExitCheck;n and j is #t+ExitCheck;w (etc)

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:49 am

You can increase the delay between speedwalk steps under preferences, under scripting, the time is in milliseconds though.
Changing that should allow you enough time for a trigger to fire and issue a #PAUSE for you.

Failed move detection is not automatic, you have to create a trigger for the failed movement message and issue #NODIR.

Beginner Joined: 15 Apr 2013 Posts: 24

I have spent most of today trying to get speed walking to work, frustratingly no success as yet.

I find that #SLOW .whatever does not wait for me to issue a #OK, ignores me if I do and that #PAUSE doesn't always keep waiting until #STEP

If I throw in #STOP and use #OK/#STEP I get the same direction repeatedly... *sigh* this should not be this hard to figure out.

Beginner Joined: 15 Apr 2013 Posts: 24

If it matters ... I am not using the automapper ... empty map... I delete it when I see it...

I can create a map but for now I know the path I want.

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:06 am

Have you tried configuring the mapper?
That usually is enough to get most games started.
But sometimes triggers are needed to fire off the #TAG commands, to define what part of the room is being displayed.
#OK is used to confirm a map movement when autodetection fails.
#NODIR is for when you get a line of text saying you did not move, for whatever reason.

Beginner Joined: 15 Apr 2013 Posts: 24

Beginner Joined: 15 Apr 2013 Posts: 24

Ok to simplify things I went back to a fresh install of zmud and started from there, since it is fairly stable here.

Fast walking seems to work quite well (I just issue a #WALK @roomname after every fight) and I can simulate paths by lying on the map and creating one way exits and fake rooms to force the path I want (I know zmud's path finding has issues, so hopefully this will translate to cmud ok). This only helps for aggressive mobs so it's really less than ideal.

Slow walking not so much. When using slow walking I have a trigger #trig {^Exits:*} {#OK} which occasionally misses a map update. I can check if I'm fighting and #STEP if I'm not based on my prompt. If I can tell that I'm off course I can issue a #WALK @roomname to correct my path. Now ... dealing with those missed map updates... is there any sort of command that will programatically achieve the same result as pressing the find button on the automapper? (Never mind this last part, I'm experimenting with the #FIND command now)