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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:23 am

Can we get the scroll bars on our text windows to function the same as they do in the map window?
Have them disappear when there is nothing extending past the edge.

If not... why not?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:45 pm

Nope, sorry. The scrollbars in the main session window do not work like normal scrollbars. The horizontal scrollbar at the bottom uses the same space as the status bar, and you can drag the splitter bar just to the left of the horizontal scrollbar and drag it to the right to hide this scrollbar. The vertical scrollbar is always present to allow access to the scrollback buffer.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:53 pm

Right, but on an freshly opened session or after using #CLR there is no need to display the vertical scroll bar until the buffer fills to the point it is needed.

Since wordwrap is on by default, I don't know why the horizontal bar is ever seen though. I know i can minimize its visual clutter, but I would like to remove it entirely.

Is there a reason you feel compelled to have them both visable even when a situation does not call for it?
I can forcibly remove them with the #MAKEW command for child windows, (and not affect scrollback via pageup/down) so I really don't understand why you are keeping this unusual behavior in the scroll bars.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:40 pm

1) If you are creating a window that is always cleared (like your own status window) you can turn off the scrollbars completely in the Preferences Session/Scrollback screen.

2) For *normal* windows, the amount of time that the window doesn't have any scrollback is really minimal. On the MUD I play, even the initial splash screen of logging into the MUD has enough lines to fill the window. It just makes no sense to not display the vertical scrollbar all the time. Having it hide and then show when the window has enough lines would just slow down CMUD since CMUD would need to re-wrap all of the lines as the width of the window decreases when the scrollbar is made visible. I just don't see why anybody would care about this.

3) I've already told you how to remove the horizontal scrollbar. Drag the splitter to the right. The reason it is shown by default is so new players know that it is there. If it was hidden by default then I'd get people complaining that they can't scroll their screen when word wrap is removed.

In any case, this isn't going to change, sorry.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:15 pm

3.) cant you just have it appear if by some odd logic they have wordwrap turned off and it becomes needed? aka, the standard
moving it all the way to one side does not make it disappear