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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:01 pm

Ok so I'm getting the following from the debugger

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

The prompt for MKO isn't being detected properly in the configuation. For you it would be \d+h, \d+e, \d+g \w+\- with regular expression set. It never seems to auto detect the xb part right.

Though, I still have some issues. I had to add an #OK to my prompt trigger to get it to want to move more than one room in follow mode. If I had more time, I'd try and figure out why that was.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:00 am

This still doesn't work when trying to use the above telnet triggers.

Note: For the record, I can use ANSI triggers to map out the areas but it's a little shoddy since ANSI is used quite a bit. I'd RATHER use the telnet commands.

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

actually...why are you tagging the room name? If you have ATCP enabled in your preferences, that automatically gets a value after the ATCP connection is made. Same for the exits.
Reason I ask is because I'm using the same trigger pattern (but for other reasons) and I'm creating rooms just fine.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:38 pm

I started using the ATCP emulation. The mapper works *better* but still doesn't get some of rooms. It's seemingly random.

Edit: Sorry let me be more clear. After auto-configuring the automapper I will walk around. Sometimes it will create rooms and sometimes it won't. Likewise with having it follow me for rooms I've created. Sometimes the map will update my position, some times it will stay in the room it was in before I moved. Again, it's seemingly random. I've tried doing a debug on it, but it hasn't shown me anything I can see as useful.

Edit2: More testing has show that it's only specific rooms that get created and no matter how many times I delete them and have the automapper re-create them, they will not let me move to them. Either in follow or create mode. Moving OUT of them is fine, but moving in to them for some reason won't work. Is there anything I can post debug wise that will help with this?

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

1. Since you switched to ATCP, did you make sure MCCP compression was unchecked on the same option page?

2. If it was unchecked, the only thing I can think of is to go over some of the map config settings. I usually have Room Name, Match Room Name at Start of Line, and Name ends with Period selected. Room description should be unchecked. Room Exits is checked, but right now I don't have anything else selected in it. The normal prompt settings, with the prompt line being what I had above. I also have wait for prompt on SLOW checked, but I may see if that is the cause of my follow mode problems.

On the Speedwalking Tab, it should be set to Match Room Name and in SLOW mode.

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

What gets me is that in follow mode, verification that the Room Name matches is supposed to be what sends the #OK signal to the mapper. For some reason this is not happening, despite the Room.Brief being sent being correct.

Okay, maybe I'm a little confused. Is the check for room name match based off what gets assigned to Room.Brief, or the actual mud output line? I ask because the one room I have that actually starts with a capital letter from the ATCP trigger works fine to move into in follow mode. All other rooms have a Room.Brief that starts with a small letter, but the outputted room name starts with a capital.

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:57 pm

In your code it looks like you are using triggers. I stopped using triggers because the documentation says I don't need it. Is that not true?

Edit: And yes MCCP is turned off.

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

The triggers were to capture the data in separate variables that I can manipulate. The ATCP messages automatically get sent to the mapper (the ones that it needs that is). So, there is no need to #TAG anything as the mapper will detect that data. But if you wish to have the data yourself, you still call your own triggers.

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

Here is another debugger output without those triggers.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:29 pm

Ok so I'm confused. What am I supposed to do to get it to map correctly?

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

Is there anyone who can comment on my question about what is being compared, when using ATCP, to confirm movement when in follow mode and the mapper set to get the confirmation from the room name?

Magician Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 496

Here is exactly what's happening, and it is related to the capital letters. The mapper uses the room name from the room properties in the map, and matches this in standard output (not sendsb) using a trigger. If you open your settings editor (where all your triggers and so on are) you will see a Map object on the left. Underneath that is a trigger named LocName (where name is the name of your location marker, probably your character name) which matches the room name. This is disabled unless you have just entered a movement command, in which case it is enabled until it matches. This trigger is of the "Verbatim" type, which is in fact case sensitive. Since ATCP is (for whatever reason runs through the head of people who set up ATCP, grrr argh grr) sending a lower case room name and the actual displayed name is upper case, it is not matching. You can fix this using %proper like so:

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

Thanks! All I had to do is go back and get all the room names to proper case and follow mode works like a charm now.

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

Well oops. Apparently using %proper also sets every word in the room name to proper case (meaning Krondor became krondor) and broke my following. So,

The Main Gates of Krondor

doesn't match what I now have in the mapper

The main gates of krondor

Magician Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 496

I can't reproduce this, if I do

#show %proper(this is a test)

the output is

This is a test

Can you paste in the XML of exactly whatever it is you're doing?

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

If you do

#show %proper(this is a Test)

you get

This is a test

With room names, what I forgot is that some words need to REMAIN capitalized beyond the first word (titles, names, etc). So like my example before, I needed Krondor to remain capitalized in the mapper to match the standard output.

Magician Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 496

Oh, I see what you mean.

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

I thought it would take a subregex, just ran out of time last night.

Newbie Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 2

Alright guys, I am having the same problem. I admit I have been out of the Mudding loop for some time, and have just tried CMud for the first time. (Previous Zmud user for many years). I am going along with the mapping as well, and it will sometimes pick up the rooms, sometimes it won't, I have tried the configuration with many settings, automatically and manually, also with a variety of triggers, and yet no matter, it always seems to skip the same rooms. (I came back specifically to try the aforementioned mud) So I thought I would post this here and hope for something else to try.

Magician Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 496

Sorry, did you mean you're also playing Midkemia? Did you try this trigger:

Newbie Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 2

Yeah, I'm playing Midkemia. I've tried it, but *cough* I haven't done any restarting in the middle of all of that.

I've mapped a vast amount of rooms between Elvandar and Krondor, and it doesn't seem to be any specific type of room, or in any specific area. For example on the second floor of Elvandar there are 10 rooms all going north, I will go up at the southern point, track them all north, then when I go back down to track the ones leading off it will stop 5 down, then not go back over the one I've already got on the map, and if I go south again it will skip the room altogether and link it to the one after it.

It's 6 am, so I won't be here much longer, I think I've been staring at this so long I'm boggled. I will definitely try these things again when I'm awake, with the restarting. Thank you much for the quick reply.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:52 pm