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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:33 pm

Really enjoying the new sort feature with databases, though I wonder if it can be applied to %sort function as well (keep it the same, but allow additional arguments?)

This is, in my opinion, very stable, even with the new json format; many of the scripts that I had problems with in the 3.18+ versions are no longer an issue here, and I do use quite a bit of complexity in my scripts. I'm actually quite pleased with 3.20 overall, especially in terms of speed and functionality. I'm sure there are bugs yet to be found, but as of this moment, I'm quite pleased with it.

Thank you, Zugg, for working hard these past two weeks or so to pump out this new beta version. I will continue to find ways to break it, I'm sure. Just wanted to drop a quick note on this at least.

Charneus

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:13 am

Oh, I guess I should have mentioned the extended syntax of the #SORT command:

#SORT list order

where "order" can be one of the following:

none - no sorting (same as 0)
alpha - alphabetic sorting (same as 1)
-alpha - reverse alphabetic sorting
number - numeric sorting
-number - reverse numeric sorting

In the future you'll be able to specify +/- a custom sort function, but not yet. Right now the performance of calling a user-defined zscript function for sorting is too poor to implement.

Also, thanks for the comments on 3.20. I'm not going to respond to most of the posts about it till Monday, but I appreciated this encouragement :)

Newbie Joined: 01 Apr 2010 Posts: 7

I can't share Charneus' enthusiasm for this version. Way too much has broken for me. I have record variables whose contents have been overwritten/wiped by scripts that have been in play since 3.0x, I have many scripts that no longer work correctly based on variable passing or local variables or something, and these scripts have also been in play for a very long time. I have triggers that are no longer triggering (or may be triggering, but the underlying functions are failing, possibly due to the same issues as listed above).

In short, large amounts of my gameplay have been rendered functionless in this version, and sometimes damaging, in the case of data stored in record variables.

I haven't isolated the causes yet (I've only been using 3.20 for a few hours), but this has been the worst beta yet for me. There aren't just bugs in new functionality (there may be, I haven't gotten there yet), large amounts of old behaviors have simply stopped working correctly.

I get that this is all part of beta testing. But I would warn others to wait for the next beta before installing, unless they want to pay heavy dues to fix their scripts. If I can isolate the exact causes, I will. But enough stuff is broken for me that I pretty much have no choice but to debug, rather than spend any time playing the game.

Tyebald

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

Tyebald, we all know (if we have been paying any attention to the forum, as we should be) that 3.18-3.20 have had some major changes that require serious debugging, which is why we are working very hard to identify the bugs. That is exactly the purpose of this version. This version was never meant to be used for actual playing, because it was _expected_ to have bugs. Zugg warned multiple times that we should backup our data before upgrading to this version. Suggesting that people not use this version is akin to suggesting that people not be beta-testers, in which case they should not be using the beta version at all. Please do try to figure out what the issues are that you are seeing.

Magician Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 364 Location: USA

It would also be good to know if the issues you're experiencing are due to the nastier bugs, which would persist in your data, seen in version 3.19x as opposed to 3.20 itself.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:01 pm

Tyebald, if you are having major problems with this version then you need to post some of the scripts that are not working for you. I haven't seen you post any specific scripts or post any specific bug reports and unless you help with the beta testing then your issues might not get fixed.