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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:00 pm

Hey folks,

I know there are several little issues with IRE games and CMUD. Rather then try to sort through the forums for all the problems, if you would not mind posting them here I can look into getting as many fixed as possible.

Please be as detailed in your explanation as possible and include any debugging output if you can.

Thanks!

Magician Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 496

I was going to make a long post, but I realized there's not that much that I've had to deal with lately. The big one is Midkemia is (was? I don't play) sending Room.Brief with a lowercase first letter, this breaks the automatic mapping.

(Oh hey, someone added Room.Num. Whoever it was, you're my new bestest friend, thanks! -- I don't know if you're waiting to post that in a long fixes post, but I wouldn't have known except I was looking at the debugger. Zugg, you might want to add this to the section of the mapper that works automatically with IRE--at least in Imperian, maybe elsewhere?:

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:41 pm

Room.Num has only been added to Imperian for the time being. All the other games should have it soon though.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:41 pm

There is a post over in the MXP Developers Forum where we have been talking more about the RoomNum tag. I plan to support the RoomNum tag a bit better in future CMUD versions so that the mapper can use the RoomNum to uniquely identify rooms instead of relying upon the name and description of the room.

Back to the original post: At one time, IRE MUDs had trouble when using both ATCP and MCCP at the same time. There was a synchronization problem that caused ATCP commands to be buffered incorrectly within the MCCP stream. I emailed Matt about this a few times, and it might have been fixed already. I keep meaning to test it to see if it's still a problem or not.

Btw, great to see someone working on improving IRE with CMUD. That's a big win-win for everyone! I'll try to do what I can on my end to make it easy too.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:25 am

One of the hold ups on that was the fact that our main Rapture coder moved to work on Earth Eternal. However, I have enslaved a new rapture coder and we are beating him into submission. I will look into the ATCP/MCCP problem. If you have any more issues let me know.

I will also look into the Room.Brief being lowercase, however that would be hard to have happen on only one game (all the games share the same code for it). I will see what I can find out.

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

I wouldn't mind seeing room descriptions being sent through ATCP. :)

Magician Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 496

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:32 pm

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:40 pm

Both the RoomNum MXP flag as well as the ATCP Room.Num calls the exact same routine in CMUD. The issue is that CMUD does not use the room number to help determine what room you are it. Improving how CMUD uses the provided room number would make the mapper more reliable.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:29 pm

This is fantastic! I've wanted a room number via ATCP for ages.

I'll start using it for Achaea as soon as it gets put in. I'm guessing I should use it to set the vnum field for the room and then I can check the vnum field first in my subroutine to determine what room I'm in.

The only irregularities I have seen with CMud and Achaea have been the ATCP/MCCP bug Zugg has already mentioned and a strange ATCP double send every time I enter a room. More specifically when I enter a room the room name and room exits ATCP information will be sent, then the non-ATCP room text will be sent, then I see the ATCP information sent a second time. I'm not sure why this is done, but to be it appeared to be an oversight (possibly) that I coded around when I discovered it.

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:10 pm

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:11 pm

Also, is anyone reading this can find a way to reproduce the ATCP/MCCP problem, will you please post it here or shoot me an email at jeremy@ironrealms.com?

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:35 pm

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:50 pm

Actually, end-users can still do it. When you turn on ATCP, CMUD will disable MCCP. But if you then manually re-enable MCCP, CMUD will remember that in the future and allow both options to be enabled.

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:04 pm

Yeah, I have done that myself, but I have not been able to kick up any problems yet. We have made a few rapture changes that may have accidentally fixed it though. No idea for sure though, so if anyone can blow anything up, that would be good to know.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:54 am

Alright, my memory was a little off, but here's how it goes:

Normally this is what is seen by Cmud. Note the double send of both the room and the exits before the non-atcp room name, exits, and prompt:

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:08 am

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:24 pm

Both examples are helpful, thanks.

I will have this worked on, but it may be a few days before you see anything in the game.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:56 pm

Thanks for taking a look at it. I think working out the kinks with ATCP along with the new ATCP room numbers will be great enhancements. For me at least, one of the most frustrating things when getting started was properly setting up the mapper. So this should be a good boost for both the beginning and experienced players alike.

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

But believe us, having the ATCP at all was a blessing. I remember the days of hoping that the mapper would match the room.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:14 am

Okay, I think I have fixed all the ATCP problems for rooms on Achaea. Test it out and let me know. I am currently testing MXP room tags on Imperian and will add them to Achaea next week unless we have problems.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:43 am

It's working great. I haven't encountered any issues yet.

Edit: I've even enabled MCCP and haven't had any issues.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:18 pm

I think that the MCCP problem has been fixed as it was related to another problem.

Please let us know of any other issues you are having.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:08 pm

It's a long shot, but any chance of getting a text list of rooms and their corresponding room numbers? I've been collecting room numbers, but I still haven't made an appreciable dent in my already mapped 23,250 rooms.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:50 am

Zugg, any idea why I would get a "SQL Error: PRIMARY KEY must be unique" when I'm trying to map a new room?