Zugg Software :: View topic - [2.25] Upgrading from 2.18 to 2.25 Changed my UI fonts

Wanderer Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 76

I just upgraded CMUD on both my desktop and laptop from 2.18 to 2.25 (took a mudding break, thus the big gap in updates), and it's screwed up the fonts UI fonts in most of CMUD. The fonts are all now larger by at least a few points I'd say. It looks like it might even be a different font (that's ugly as hell in my opinion). Did I miss a UI font change/bug a few months ago, or is there a setting I need to change somewhere to make the UI fonts display like they used to (which was probably as Arial or Tahoma 8pt)?

Note: I'm not talking about mud terminal fonts, but UI fonts (ie, text in buttons, menus, etc).

Novice Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 41

My package editor font also got changed switching from 2.18 to 2.25.

Wizard Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 1201

I don't see any change. As far as the package editor font it looks 100 times better in my opinion, especially since it used to have crap like white font against light blue background that you couldn't even read.

Wizard Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 1113 Location: USA

I think it did change. Consolas should be the new default font, I think? Personally, I like it. If you don't, you can easily change your default font to something else.

Wizard Joined: 14 Oct 2000 Posts: 1368

Wizard Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 1201

I think he's talking about the actual font on the interface not inside the editor window. That's easy to change in Syntax Editor font style, which usually is Courier by default. I'm not sure how you would change the font on the actual interface. I don't think you can.

Wanderer Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 76

Wizard Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 1201

You can't as far as I know. I think he misunderstood you.

Wizard Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 1201

Enchanter Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 593 Location: Canada

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:03 pm

CMUD changed to use whatever you have set in Windows as your default fonts. In XP, the default interface font is Tahoma 8pt, but in Vista the default interface font is Segio UI 9pt.

In any case, unless there is a bug, CMUD now uses the system font like it is supposed to rather than "forcing" the XP Tahoma font like in older versions. This makes CMUD more Windows compliant, especially on Vista.

Please remember to post what version of Windows you are using when you report a problem.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:35 pm

Both of these screenshots were taken just now on XP. The change occurs between 2.22 and 2.23.

Wrong
Right

Wizard Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 1201

The one you have showing as wrong is the one I think is much better. You can't even see that white text against the light blue on the other one.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:41 am

The text colour's not the the issue, it's the fact that the font has magically changed. And I'm not expressing an opinion about whether I prefer one or the other; the point is that my system font hasn't changed and the font in CMUD has, and shouldn't've.

Wizard Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 1201

I see what you are saying with the difference. However, I still prefer the new font and the new color. Smile

Enchanter Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 605

Fang, I think that your "wrong" screenshot is actualy the right one. Just look closely at capital "C" in "Chiara's..." It has rounded left side, like "C" in Verdana font.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:06 pm

It's not about personal preference. The point is that the font's changed from what it has been in every other CMUD version and, according to Zugg, that shouldn't have happened. It's supposed to be using the system font - clearly it either wasn't in the past, or it isn't now. I don't know what the system font is, but I'd assume that the new one isn't it since Zugg said old versions forced Tahoma.

Enchanter Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 605

Aleron:
I did upgrade 2.18->2.25 too for the same reason as you, but did not have any font changes. I found some old screenshots on my computer - the Package Editor menu in 2.25 has the same font that it had in 2.10

Fang:
Default system font in XP - Tahoma 8pt and on your "wrong" screenshot for CMUD 2.25 the font looks more Tahoma-like than on your "right". What is your default font for system menus?

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:48 am

Whatever the default is. I have no idea what that is, but here's a shot of the start menu. Compare it to the above two shots and you can see that the newer one is different. Compare the C in My Computer to the C in Chiara's.

New shot.

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:36 pm

Looks like the latest version of CMUD is not using the Windows system font correctly. I went back and forth with Developer Express several times a month ago to get various font and alignment issues worked out and it's possible that I forgot to re-enable something in CMUD to properly change the font. Since I develop in Vista these days, it would make sense that it would look fine in Vista but not in XP. So I'll test it in XP and see what I can find.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:19 pm

Yep, I still had a line commented out that was supposed to set the font. Fixed for 2.26.