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Newbie Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Location: PA

Perhaps it can already do this, and this is what i was REALLLLLY hoping it would do.

I've been wanting to make maps for the mud im currently on and i've been a fan of Zmud for a long time. So i figured
I'd grab the trial version of Zmapper and i mapped out Midgaard in the mud i play on. With a little learning curve I was
able to get it. But what i really wanted was at a certain zoom level or a view feature to show room names on top of the
square for each room. Is this a current feature or somehow possible. I can't find anything to show. There has to be a
way shy of mapping it in zmapper than screencapturing the map, and putting the map in photoshop and retyping all the
room names in each square. Please let me know, this is a great map program and for me anyway that would make it
complete and well worth purchase.

Thanks for your time.

Elderick

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:30 pm

To my knowledge, there's no way to do exactly what you describe. Maybe it will make it as a feature addition for the mapper re-write later this year, although I question it's utility. Unless you are really zoomed in, I imagine it will be difficult to fit the entire name of the room.

With that said, there are a few alternatives that will probably accomplish what you want.

First whenever you mouse over a room the room name is displayed in the tool tip by default. (You can actually set this to be something else if you want.)

Second, in both zMUD and zMapper the name of the room is typically displayed in the status bar of the mapper window.

Third, you can use a simple script to manually enable the label display for each room. Since the default label is the room name this could probably accomplish what you want as well. You can specify where you want the room label displayed relative to the room. The choices are the 8 cardinal directions (W, NW, N, ...) and middle. Middle is probably the one you want.

I hope that helps.

Newbie Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Location: PA

Thanks for the quick reply. I apologize for being so new. The label is what i was looking for, although i was hoping to highlight them all, and put label in the middle and have the label be the room name. Also this was under the (hope) assumption that the text was vector so when i zoomed in, labeled the whole map then fit to page, the text would scale with the map, but i see now the text is fixed which blows that hope away. I guess i could possibly zoom in, put in all the text, print to pdf then scale the finished pdf to fit on a normal page. I will have to try that. Thanks again for the help. I'm using trial versions of both software and if this all works out i intend to buy both cmud (zmud?) and zmapper.

I also wonder with all my triggers in the most recent version of zmud, will i have to redo them if i get cmud or will they convert as if i was upgrading to a new version of Zmud

Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

Newbie Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Location: PA

Ok so im loving the mapper and i've figured out a satisfactory way of doing this with a legend on the side.

But how do i change the blasted colors of the Upper level and lower level colors. Can i just turn off the lower level from showing up under the main level.

Here is an example of my map of Titania but you can see one in the top right it gets really cluttered because there is a tower there and its showing 2 levels ...Can you turn that off to only show 1 level? I couldn't find it.

Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

In the mapper click the config button. Then click configuration settings. Under Appearance there is a Colors option.

You can un-check the solid below option. Also you will find that if you set the below and above colors to be the same as your background color they disappear.

The line color is the color of your links so you will not want to set that as the same color as your background...

Nice looking map btw.

Novice Joined: 20 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 Location: Australia

I love Zmapper, mainly because I can script exits for those really weird ones in my mud.
What I do to distinguish between the different shops is to colour the rooms differently.
Mind you, I don't have as many different shops as you do.
Another way is to create your own bitmap of say a shield and use that instead of just a square for the armour shop room.
That is the advantage of ZMapper, you can modify the standard room to however you like it.

If you are not going to resize your map, you can also create a background image with all the text in there at whatever font you desire.

The other thing I do (but available under the zmud mapper as well) is to create a short name for the shops, and then I can simply use '#WALK genshop' and the mapper walks me to the general store.

Luggage
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Newbie Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Location: PA

IS there anyway to force Zmapper to allow me to put all levels on the same level so i can truely make a map of an area without having to make a sep map for that one room where it went up...

Simply being able to put a line to a room and label it second floor would be great on the same level.

Also can you link rooms on different level with each other. I've run across this in my mud. You go down in one spot walk a few rooms and your on ground level again, perhaps signifying a slope or something. I was unable to figure that one out and had to leave it unlinked

Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

Newbie Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Location: PA

Here is why i asked, im not sure where the little circles came from but it all works the way it is supposed to when i walk around and it looks good i think posted as an image so i dont have to photoshop the different levels on the same level.

I couldnt figure out how to do it from the properties screen, but Control + M worked great for me.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:11 pm

The little circles represent a link that links back to the current room. So if you were to go east out of that one room, you'd end up back in it. If you edit the room, you should see that the east link is linked to the same room number. You should be able to just delete it.

Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

The circles are links that you have going back to the same room where one of the sides is set properly and one of them is not.

The only way to get rid of the ones that are in the middle of the box is to delete it in the properties.

Unless the mud actually has an exit that loops back to the same room it is best to get rid of these extras. They probably appeared when you were trying to use the second set of instructions.

Edit: beaten by Fang...

Newbie Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Location: PA

Rats i thought it represented a hole...i liked the circle in the middle to represent a hole Confused

Wizard Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1265 Location: USA

You can make them there on purpose if you like the effect. Just check to be sure that they do not cause your map to not follow correct.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:24 pm

It's not like the mapper is ever going to try and use that exit in its speedwalks since it's just a pointless extra step anyway. Like Arminas says, leaving them in won't hurt.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:58 pm

The easier and better way to get a "hole" in a room is to create a new room type in zMapper, edit the bit map for that room type to have a circle and then it will display with a circle. After that you just change all the rooms that you want to have a "hole" to this new room type.

Newbie Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Location: PA

Ok i have someting that is getting frustrating. Everytime im walking around with mapper mapping an area, and i walk into a door it goofs up afterwards.

For instance im at an intersection with doors east and west. If i hit west, it says no theres a door there. Thats fine dot doesnt move. I open west and type west again he walks west...perfect. Then i hit east to go back and it puts another room west...instead of east. This is driving me batty.

Any auggstions?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:49 pm

Sounds like you mapper queue is not being cleared out properly. If you have triggers picking this up you can type "#QUEUE 0" and that should do the trick.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:04 pm

You could also try creating triggers for all "You didn't actually move" messages that send the #nodir command. "You can't move that way", "You need to swim that way" etc etc. The problem is that you send the command and the mapper is still waiting for a room to the west to appear. It thinks that the next room that appears is the one to the west.

Enchanter Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 698