Zugg Software :: View topic - [Newbie Question]

Beginner Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 15

Ive blatantly stolen a script from a friend, and it is quite complex and well written at that, but I have a little problem. It has 5 different chat windows, and they are fantastic, all with little tabs. I didn't like the way they were docked by default, so I undocked them, and they are all in a nice concise floating window, very good.

Image to go with the beg-for-help: http://www.vurt.net/~banana/zmud.jpg

Now this object has no obvious way of making it sit always on top. Does anyone, anyone at all, know how to make that one window, sit always on top? If I seperate it into 5 pieces, I can make each one always on top, but that is a gigantic waste of screenspace. :/

Thanks in advance,
Behemoth / 3-Kingdoms

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:10 pm

I dont know myself.. but i tend to dock it so that all my chats are tabbed along the top, abd the main window is tiled by itself below, just play around with the docking.

Apprentice Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 135

Right click the window and select "Caption On Top". Then depress the "On Top" button. If you deselect "Caption On Top", then the "On Top" is removed also.

Beginner Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 15

Doesn't work, The window depicted in that screencap has every tabbed ticked as Caption on top.

Beginner Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 15

Replying to myself in the hopes this will go back to first page of the forum and someone will have an answer. :P

GURU Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 1958 Location: Canada

Usually at this point it would be faster to:

Layout->Quick Tiling->Multiple Tabbed

Then move the windows about as suggested to re-set up a layout that you like.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:37 pm

He found what he likes i believe... he has them all tabbed together in a freefloating window.

Just cant get it to stay on top while messing around in the game window.

I have been messing around with this and I cant find away to make it stay on top either.

Beginner Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 15

Exactly! I'm going to try one of those third party stay-always-on-top programs, to see if it will let me change this child window. Since Zmud obviously doesn't have the provision for it.

GURU Joined: 23 Dec 2000 Posts: 4834 Location: USA

Zugg basically wrote the stayontop thing when the stayontop feature was rather buggy and new in Windows. Since ZMud has to support those older, buggier versions he's been unable to enact the changes needed to fix this. The problem's been fixed, I believe, in CMud, as he's no longer officially constrained by the older, buggier versions of Windows.

Novice Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 39

new graphics cards have this built in... if you get one when you right click on any window and go down to the "nview options" or what ever graphics card options you have it has a "keep on top" option

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:11 pm

My suggestion to this would be, if you stole it from your friend then complete the steal and take his .lay file along with the .mud file.
Chances are that everything you need are in there and it should work.
Just have him export the data from the .mud and give you a copy of the .lay
*shrug*
if that don't work then maybe it is like Istroath said and need to check the nview options.

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:53 pm

I have played with this for about an hour.

You can do it quite easily with a single floating window with no other windows docked in said floating window.

When you dock another window within a floating window you lose the menu for window handling, you also lose the window controls on the window frame which also has the pin button on it. When this happens you lose the ability to repin and so force it on top at which point it becomes pointless to save the layout because then the layout is wrong.

To get it working as is I would definitely say that your only option now is to do as you have already suggested and try a third party pinning program although I'm not even sure if that will work.

If it doesn't work then really your only alternative is to merge all the directed chat into one floating window, in order for it to stay on top, which isn't ideal since you lose the neat segregation of chat types and would have a lot more scrolling to do.