Zugg Software :: View topic - "Prompt" trigger not firing... but fires fine if set as a newline trigger.

Sorcerer Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 715

I have the following class, and I want the triggers to notify my ASAP, so I set them all to "prompt" but now they don't fire at all. Anyone tell me why?
I should note that EVERY single one works if set as a Newline trigger instead. And I've had them work on another computer (my old one) as Prompt triggers. So I'm wondering if there's some setting I accidentally screwed up that they no longer work.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:40 pm

Whether a line is a prompt or not depends on the characters the MUD is sending at the end of the line. It's much more difficult in zMUD than it is in CMUD; you'll want to take a look at the readable log created by the #debug command. But if it all works fine when set to newline, why complain?

Sorcerer Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 715

Because I want them to fire faster ;)
Especially the trigger for dispell magic, which removes all protection spells. If I don't re-wear my equipment that casts those spells fast enough I die. Period. So, the faster the better ;)

Wanderer Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 96

From what I understand prompt triggers only fire if it's actually a prompt, IE no %cr %lf characters at the end of the line (like when you are prompted for your name to sign in to the MUD) and therefore won't trigger when the line actually contains a carriage return/line feed.

-Rappy

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:11 pm

Yes, that's what happens. If they're newline triggers, they fire when the line has a newline (the carriage return character and the linefeed character) at the end. If they're prompt triggers, they only fire when the line either ends in no characters (which it shouldn't do really) or when it ends with a go-ahead or end-of-record character. Neither one is faster than the other, it's just an easy way of triggering based on what kind of line it is.

I'm really not sure where you got this impression that prompt triggers fire more quickly. It might possibly look that way because the text appears at the end of a prompt line, but appears on a new line when the line ends in CRLF, but that's because the CRLF character demands that nothing else appear on that line, so the commands go onto the next one. With GA or EOR, CMUD is free to write on the end of the line. Either way, it's not the case.

Sorcerer Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 715

Still doesn't explain why they worked before and not now. Unless it is something to do with the latest code update. Oh well, guess it doesn't matter.

Wanderer Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 96

Sure it does, they worked before set on Newline (which is what you need to actually trigger what you are wanting) but they don't now because you changed them to prompt (which is ignored completely by zMUD because it's NOT a prompt, the crlf characters at the end tell zMUD to look for a newline trigger, if, as Fang said, those are missing and has a GA or EoR character instead, zMUD looks for prompt triggers)

Think of a prompt trigger being used ONLY when there is an action required from you (IE. creating a new character... Please choose your race: <--- waits for your action to continue and would be treated as a prompt trigger)

Hope that helps clear things up.

-Rappy

Sorcerer Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 715

No Rappy, they worked on another computer as Prompt triggers a couple months back :p I guess you missed that from the original post. I wouldn't have posted this question if it hadn't worked this way before.